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| 00:00 | mkanat | Oh, that's probably what it is, yeah. |
| 00:00 | bugbot | Just appeared in Max's Blog: Bugzilla Survey 2008: Results <http://avatraxiom.livejournal.com/89973.html> |
| 00:00 | bbaetz | on postgres, the second stage could involve hashjoins, but.... |
| 00:00 | mkanat | We don't do fulltext there yet anyhow. |
| 00:00 | bbaetz | oh |
| 00:00 | mkanat | We fake it with a lot of OR LIKE. |
| 00:01 | bbaetz | I tihnk its not an addon anymore, but I cuold be wrong |
| 00:01 | mkanat | In 8.3, yeah. |
| 00:01 | bbaetz | were any of the people you surveyed using postgres? |
| 00:01 | bbaetz | I think RH is |
| 00:01 | mkanat | But we can't require 8.3 yet. |
| 00:01 | mkanat | bbaetz: No, RH switch to MySQL. |
| 00:01 | mkanat | I think everybody I surveyed is using MySQL. |
| 00:01 | mkanat | There are some organizations that use Pg, though. |
| 00:01 | mkanat | GNOME wants to switch to it. |
| 00:02 | bbaetz | I'm been wanting someone big to switch for years |
| 00:02 | bbaetz | :) |
| 00:02 | mkanat | Yeah, for sure. :-) |
| 00:02 | * bbaetz wonders what this Fh::slice warning is | |
| 00:02 | mkanat | We haven't really had much QA stuff. |
| 00:03 | mkanat | bbaetz: It's a bug that we fixed. |
| 00:03 | mkanat | bbaetz: Gentoo says they applied the patch. |
| 00:03 | mkanat | bbaetz: But I think they are confused or something somehow. :-) |
| 00:03 | mkanat | bbaetz: Because we fixed that bug and nobody else reports it. |
| 00:03 | bbaetz | the warning is in template/en/custom/ |
| 00:03 | bbaetz | maybe they patched default? |
| 00:03 | mkanat | bbaetz: Oh. Well, that sounds like the problem then, yeah. |
| 00:06 | bbaetz | there do seem to be lots of groups that patched the same sort of features in |
| 00:06 | mkanat | Indeed. |
| 00:16 | mkanat | I suspected that would be the case--that's one of the reasons I wanted to do the survey. |
| 00:36 | mkanat | Hmm. |
| 01:10 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org added attachment 338774 to bug 455430 |
| 01:10 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org requested review from bugzilla%glob.com.a u for attachment 338774 on bug 455430. |
| 01:10 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338774&action=edit patch, v1, xbugzillaurl.diff |
| 01:10 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455430 Email Notifications, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 4.0, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, Add an X-Bugzilla-URL header to identify what install this email comes from |
| 01:18 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: Email Notifications bug 455430 filed by mkanat%bugzilla.org. |
| 01:18 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455430 Email Notifications, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 4.0, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, Add an X-Bugzilla-URL header to identify what install this email comes from |
| 01:20 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org added attachment 338775 to bug 455430 |
| 01:20 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org cancelled review?(bugzilla%glob.com.a u) for attachment 338774 on bug 455430. |
| 01:20 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org requested review from bugzilla%glob.com.a u for attachment 338775 on bug 455430. |
| 01:20 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338774&action=edit patch, v1, xbugzillaurl.diff |
| 01:20 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338775&action=edit patch, v2, xbugzillaurl.diff |
| 01:20 | mkanat | bbaetz: Actually, do you want to review that one? It's pretty simple. |
| 01:24 | bbaetz | mkanat: yeah, sure |
| 01:25 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org cancelled review?(bugzilla%glob.com.a u) for attachment 338775 on bug 455430. |
| 01:25 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org requested review from bbaetz%acm.org for attachment 338775 on bug 455430. |
| 01:25 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338775&action=edit patch, v2, xbugzillaurl.diff |
| 01:25 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455430 Email Notifications, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 4.0, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, Add an X-Bugzilla-URL header to identify what install this email comes from |
| 01:25 | bbaetz | hmm |
| 01:26 | bbaetz | I see why you don't want https, I guess |
| 01:27 | bbaetz | some sites may not accept http connections at all (even for the redirect), but I guess this is for filtering not clicking on |
| 01:28 | bbaetz | mkanat: why not remove the https? stuff instead of the URL? It doesn't really matter, I guess |
| 01:28 | mkanat | bbaetz: Eh? |
| 01:28 | bbaetz | the first patch would have printed |
| 01:28 | bbaetz | X-Bugzilla-URL: bugzilla.mozilla.org |
| 01:28 | bbaetz | the second does |
| 01:28 | bbaetz | X-Bugzilla-URL: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org |
| 01:28 | mkanat | Yeah. |
| 01:29 | mkanat | I also can't guarantee that urlbase and sslbase are actually identical. |
| 01:29 | bbaetz | sure. But why not have it as the first way did, since this is for procmail only? |
| 01:30 | bbaetz | It doesn't really matter, I guess |
| 01:31 | bugbot | bbaetz%acm.org granted review for attachment 338775 on bug 455430. |
| 01:31 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338775&action=edit patch, v2, xbugzillaurl.diff |
| 01:31 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455430 Email Notifications, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 4.0, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, Add an X-Bugzilla-URL header to identify what install this email comes from |
| 01:32 | mkanat | bbaetz: Thanks! :-) |
| 01:33 | himorin | ah, for supybot :-) |
| 01:33 | mkanat | bbaetz: Yeah, I thought of cutting off the http:// anyhow, but... |
| 01:33 | mkanat | himorin: Yeah, and for my personal mail filtering. :-) |
| 01:33 | himorin | heh. |
| 01:34 | mkanat | I just started getting emails from bugzillaqa, and I have no real way to filter them separately from the other landfill installs. |
| 01:34 | himorin | ah, yeah. |
| 01:34 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org changed the Status on bug 455430 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| 01:34 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 455430 from Bugzilla 4.0 to Bugzilla 3.4. |
| 01:34 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted approval on bug 455430. |
| 01:34 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455430 Email Notifications, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 3.4, mkanat%bugzilla.org, RESOLVED FIXED, Add an X-Bugzilla-URL header to identify what install this email comes from |
| 01:35 | mkanat | bbaetz: I figured once I was using urlbase directly, I couldn't really justify the extra code. |
| 01:36 | bbaetz | yeah, fair enough |
| 01:36 | himorin | ah,, i've not filed to bmo, but we have some problem related on language selection by Accept-Language (?) |
| 01:37 | himorin | some IE 7 sends, Accept-Language: ja-JP, en-US, en. lol. |
| 01:37 | mkanat | himorin: What happens in that case? |
| 01:37 | himorin | sends, en templates. |
| 01:37 | mkanat | himorin: That's technically correct. |
| 01:38 | mkanat | himorin: Since it's saying that you'd prefer en-US to any Japanese that isn't from Japan. |
| 01:38 | himorin | mm. |
| 01:38 | bbaetz | mkanat: not from japan, but 'japan' japanese |
| 01:38 | mkanat | bbaetz: Yeah. |
| 01:38 | himorin | hmm.. |
| 01:39 | bbaetz | there are a bunch of rules |
| 01:39 | bbaetz | that are quite complex |
| 01:39 | bbaetz | actually |
| 01:39 | bbaetz | http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html |
| 01:39 | bbaetz | 14.4 |
| 01:40 | bbaetz | If you send ja, it matches ja-JP |
| 01:40 | bbaetz | but not the other way arround |
| 01:40 | mkanat | Right. |
| 01:40 | himorin | yeah, that is. |
| 01:40 | mkanat | himorin: As a workaround you could tell people to symlink ja-JP to ja. |
| 01:41 | mkanat | himorin: I'm not sure if we support that, but you could try it. |
| 01:41 | himorin | yeah, i thought that. |
| 01:41 | bbaetz | so my accept-language is en-AU, en-UK, en |
| 01:41 | himorin | basically, i think it's a bug of IE, of cource. |
| 01:41 | bbaetz | which I don't remember setting up, actually. Hmm |
| 01:41 | mkanat | himorin: Yeah, sounds like it. |
| 01:41 | mkanat | bbaetz: I'm guessing it came like that out of the box. |
| 01:42 | himorin | IE7 adds ja-JP, when user adds 'Japanese' :-) |
| 01:42 | mkanat | himorin: Yeah, so it should add ja-JP, ja. |
| 01:42 | mkanat | They probably do that because there is no other ja, yeah? |
| 01:42 | bbaetz | mkanat: maybe. But that means something 'knows' that en_au would prefer en_uk, but en_us doesn't |
| 01:42 | * bbaetz looks | |
| 01:42 | himorin | definitely yes. |
| 01:43 | mkanat | Yeah, but that forces every web application to know which languages are unique and fall back, so that'll never happen. :-) So definitely a bug in IE. :-) |
| 01:44 | himorin | :-) |
| 01:50 | justdave | vmware needs our queing hack |
| 01:50 | justdave | there problem isn't that the mail takes a long time to send, it's that process_bug.cgi sits there and waits for it to send after the user submits |
| 01:50 | justdave | s/there/their/ |
| 01:50 | justdave | same problem we had on mozilla |
| 01:51 | * justdave waves at felis- -- didn't notice you come in. :) | |
| 01:52 | mkanat | justdave: Yeah. |
| 01:52 | mkanat | And oh, yeah, howdy felis-. |
| 01:52 | mkanat | justdave: If xb95 ever wants to update that for upstream, we'd be happy to have it. |
| 01:52 | mkanat | justdave: CPAN also needs a newer Data::ObjectDriver. |
| 01:53 | justdave | felis-: got your email, LpSolit's probably the person you want to talk to, but it looks like he's already out for the night (he's in Switzerland, way late there ;) |
| 01:54 | mkanat | justdave: Oh, I didn't get her email, did she reply just to you? |
| 01:54 | justdave | yeah |
| 01:54 | mkanat | Ah, okay. :-) |
| 01:55 | justdave | sounds like she's aiming for doing some Selenium scripting and perhaps grabbing one or two of the P1/P2 enhancements |
| 01:57 | * justdave looks at bug 453425 and sighs | |
| 01:57 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453425 Attachments & Requests, enhancement, P1, ---, colin.ogilvie%gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Bugzilla should use "X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff" for attachments |
| 01:57 | justdave | leave it to Microsoft to make everyone change their servers to fix their problems. |
| 01:58 | mkanat | justdave: I've been working on the Selenium scripting too, lately. |
| 01:58 | mkanat | justdave: Hahahaha, yeah. :-) |
| 02:00 | justdave | I must be getting old. |
| 02:01 | justdave | every time I start getting "into the groove" and being hugely productive, it's suddenly time to go to bed or somesuch. :) |
| 02:01 | mkanat | Hahahaha. |
| 02:02 | mkanat | justdave: Is that related to how much energy you have, or just how much other stuff you have to do? |
| 02:04 | justdave | energy probably. Feeling very tired right now, and I've only been up for 14 hours or so. |
| 02:04 | felis- | justdave hi how're you? ;) |
| 02:05 | mkanat | justdave: I think a lot of people feel that way because they eat little in the morning and a lot at night. |
| 02:05 | mkanat | justdave: I read a book on nutrition that pointed out that really we should be eating the opposite way. :-) |
| 02:05 | mkanat | justdave: Since protein is a long-term energy source, we should be having large, protein-heavy meals in the morning and smaller meals for dinner. :-) |
| 02:06 | mkanat | That's probably also a large part of the common reliance that you see on coffee. |
| 02:06 | mkanat | Because people eat a lot of carbohydrates in the morning, and so then they feel "dead" an hour later or so, and go for some coffee. |
| 02:06 | mkanat | (Or lots of people just don't eat breakfast at all.) |
| 02:08 | justdave | I tend to eat big after I get up |
| 02:08 | felis- | mkanat depends on your goals. if you want just to run for a long time, you need protein mostly. but if you need to solve some sort of 'creative' problem, you also will need those right carbs like in pasta. and for the exam the best thing is oatmeal cookie |
| 02:08 | justdave | because it's usually lunchtime here, and my wife gets me out of bed by saying "lunch is ready" |
| 02:08 | mkanat | felis-: Unless it's a long exam! |
| 02:08 | mkanat | felis-: In which case after about an hour you're going to feel tired. :-) |
| 02:08 | mkanat | justdave: Hahahaha. :-) |
| 02:08 | mkanat | justdave: Maybe you're like me--I need to eat about twice in the day to really start feeling "awake." |
| 02:09 | justdave | I'm more of a nighttime person, I hate mornings. |
| 02:09 | justdave | I was up earlier than usual today, that probably has something to do with it |
| 02:09 | felis- | mkanat ;) the good thing about the outmeal cookie is that it has fast carbs for an immediate start and right carbs for the long run. i don't remember how they call those right and wrong carbs ;( |
| 02:10 | justdave | got up around 9am instead of noon |
| 02:10 | mkanat | felis-: Complex and simple. |
| 02:10 | felis- | mkanat thanks! |
| 02:10 | mkanat | justdave: Ah, yeah, that's probably it. :-) |
| 02:10 | mkanat | felis-: Welcome! :-) |
| 02:12 | felis- | that's that memory thing, i want to sleep. i was thinking that i'll hear lots of talks about bugs/features here, not about food ;) |
| 02:12 | mkanat | felis-: lol |
| 02:12 | mkanat | felis-: You caught us at an unusual time. :-) |
| 02:13 | mkanat | felis-: You should come to our meeting tomorrow, though! |
| 02:13 | himorin | it's noon time, here. :-p |
| 02:14 | justdave | 2pm eastern |
| 02:14 | justdave | (when the meeting is) |
| 02:14 | xiaoou | hmm, I don't even have a time to have breakfast. |
| 02:14 | * justdave is in eastern time zone also | |
| 02:15 | xiaoou | mkanat: what is the cvs server for selenium script? |
| 02:15 | xiaoou | mkanat: I would like to check out for a test. |
| 02:16 | justdave | I think it's hosted on landfill, and needs ssh access to get to |
| 02:16 | mkanat | xiaoou: LpSolit has them only on landfill, limited to the QA team. You'll have to talk tohim. |
| 02:16 | xiaoou | mkanat: I see, thanks:-) |
| 02:16 | justdave | it's locked down because the scripts have admin passwords in them and so forth |
| 02:16 | felis- | oh i see! it's 10:14pm in Toronto |
| 02:17 | xiaoou | justdave: Thanks:-) |
| 02:17 | mkanat | justdave: Actually, the bugzilla32 ones don't, so eventually we can open those up. |
| 02:17 | mkanat | justdave: I actually talked to LpSolit about eventually including all the scripts in the normal Bugzilla CVS. |
| 02:17 | mkanat | justdave: And having developers update them when they add new features. |
| 02:18 | mkanat | (Now that they're moving to Perl.) |
| 02:18 | justdave | we should find a way to postprocess them after checkout so we can feed it a config file to insert the necessary passwords |
| 02:18 | mkanat | justdave: We have a config file. :-) |
| 02:18 | mkanat | justdave: And there's now also a script that sets up a database to be tested. |
| 02:19 | justdave | if the passwords aren't actually in the code that's in cvs then I have no issue with it being public. :) |
| 02:19 | mkanat | justdave: I think that for the older stuff, the passwords are still in the code. |
| 02:19 | mkanat | justdave: And it's not branches, it's just different directories in HEAD. |
| 02:20 | felis- | mkanat, thanks for inviting me |
| 02:20 | mkanat | felis-: np. http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:Meetings |
| 02:23 | * bbaetz briefly considers waking up at 4am tomorrow for the meeting. | |
| 02:27 | mkanat | bbaetz: I don't know if it's *that* important. :-) |
| 02:27 | bbaetz | :) |
| 02:41 | justdave | word snowyowl |
| 02:41 | word | justdave: huh? |
| 02:42 | justdave | SnowyOwl: what's your prefered email address these days? (for bugzilla project related stuff) |
| 02:42 | mkanat | justdave: "fedrushkov" works if you add that as a CC. |
| 02:42 | mkanat | (Since usermatching searches fullnames also.) |
| 02:42 | justdave | I have something to email him outside of bugzilla |
| 02:42 | mkanat | Ahh. :-) |
| 02:43 | justdave | got someone interested in doing a croatian translation and has a mess of l10n questions |
| 02:44 | mkanat | justdave: On developers@ I see (last name)@users.sourceforge.net |
| 02:45 | justdave | my autocomplete in Thunderbird is offering me a gmail and a lukoil addres |
| 02:47 | mkanat | justdave: Ah, yeah, I get personal emails from him from gmail. |
| 02:59 | SnowyOwl | justdave: hi |
| 03:00 | SnowyOwl | vitaly.fedrushkov%gmail.com, as shown on most bugzillas |
| 03:03 | SnowyOwl | OK I'm reading Josip Golubic |
| 04:17 | bugbot | New Webtools :: Verbatim bug 455448 filed by clouserw%gmail.com. |
| 04:17 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455448 Verbatim, critical, --, ---, nobody%mozilla.org, NEW, Verbatim should support SSL |
| 05:18 | bugbot | rdoherty%mozilla.com added attachment 338795 to bug 454662 |
| 05:18 | bugbot | rdoherty%mozilla.com requested review from clouserw%gmail.com for attachment 338795 on bug 454662. |
| 05:18 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338795&action=edit patch, rtl nav fix, rtl.diff |
| 05:18 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454662 Verbatim, normal, --, ---, rdoherty%mozilla.com, NEW, Menu background is too short |
| 06:30 | bugbot | New Webtools :: Tinderbox bug 455457 filed by cls%seawood.org. |
| 06:30 | bugbot | cls%seawood.org added attachment 338806 to bug 455457 |
| 06:30 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338806&action=edit patch, v1.0, tb-enable-ssl-v1.0.patch |
| 06:30 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455457 Tinderbox, enhancement, --, ---, cls%seawood.org, NEW, Add SSL support |
| 06:35 | bugbot | clouserw%gmail.com granted review for attachment 338795 on bug 454662. |
| 06:35 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338795&action=edit patch, rtl nav fix, rtl.diff |
| 06:35 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454662 Verbatim, normal, --, ---, rdoherty%mozilla.com, NEW, Menu background is too short |
| 06:35 | bugbot | clouserw%gmail.com changed the Status on bug 454662 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| 07:25 | CGI156 | justdave r u there |
| 07:25 | CGI156 | morgan here |
| 07:25 | CGI156 | how r u |
| 07:26 | CGI156 | justdave r u there |
| 07:27 | CGI156 | dave miller r u thre |
| 07:27 | CGI156 | David Miller |
| 07:27 | CGI156 | David Miller r u there |
| 07:28 | justdave | you're repeating yourself an awful lot. |
| 07:28 | CGI156 | hi i am facing a proble while installing bugzilla |
| 07:28 | CGI156 | coz here there is a proxy server |
| 07:28 | CGI156 | it has got authenaction |
| 07:29 | CGI156 | when i type cvslogin and password |
| 07:29 | CGI156 | it tells me there is error in connecting |
| 07:30 | justdave | you're trying to get Bugzilla from cvs? |
| 07:30 | CGI156 | yes |
| 07:30 | CGI156 | i have bugzilla in tar format |
| 07:30 | CGI156 | i have extrated it and copied and pasted the bugzilla folder in c:\ |
| 07:31 | justdave | if you already have it from a tarball, you probably don't really need to do anything with cvs |
| 07:31 | CGI156 | oky |
| 07:32 | justdave | unless you're looking for some cutting edge feature that's new since the 3.2 release candidate |
| 07:32 | CGI156 | this is 3.0.5 |
| 07:34 | CGI156 | in 3.0.5 release i have extracted tht into c:\ now |
| 07:34 | CGI156 | then wht shld i check can u help me David Miller |
| 07:35 | justdave | http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/win32install.html |
| 07:35 | justdave | have you seen that page? |
| 07:35 | justdave | that's slightly out of date, but most of it is still good. If the output of checksetup.pl tells you to do something different than that does, checksetup.pl is the one that's right. |
| 07:35 | justdave | (and it will in a few places) |
| 07:36 | CGI156 | ye i saw the page |
| 07:36 | justdave | beyond that I probably won't be much help. I don't use Windows, so I'm very unfamiliar with it. |
| 07:36 | CGI156 | one year back u have helped me do u remeber me i am morgan |
| 07:37 | CGI156 | and u helped me and i did the same |
| 07:37 | justdave | there's a lot of people that hang out on this channel that like to help people, so you don't need to look for me specifically. :) |
| 07:37 | justdave | to be honest, I don't... sorry. We help a lot of people in here :) |
| 07:37 | CGI156 | u r the master David Miller |
| 07:39 | CGI156 | thanx justdave |
| 07:39 | justdave | you're welcome |
| 07:41 | justdave | it's 3:40am here, I should have been in bed a long time ago. :) you just got lucky tonight. You could have been shouting my name into the ether for hours. :) |
| 07:44 | CGI156 | thanx a lot for being with me |
| 07:45 | CGI156 | here it's 1.15 PM |
| 07:45 | CGI156 | i think the port is blocked there so i am not able to run the commands |
| 07:45 | CGI156 | anyways thanx a lot for helping me, with ur valuable time |
| 07:49 | bugbot | cls%seawood.org added attachment 338816 to bug 455457 |
| 07:49 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338816&action=edit patch, v1.1, tb-enable-ssl-v1.1.patch |
| 07:49 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455457 Tinderbox, enhancement, --, ---, cls%seawood.org, NEW, Add SSL support |
| 07:51 | CGI156 | when i run c;\bugzilla>cvs update -R -d -rbugzilla_Stable i get error message {Error connecting to host cvs-mirror.mozilla.org:no such host is known}.can any one help me |
| 07:53 | CGI156 | can any1 help me |
| 07:53 | CGI156 | help me some one |
| 08:01 | timelyx | um |
| 08:01 | timelyx | ping cvs-mirror.mozilla.org |
| 08:01 | timelyx | nslookup |
| 08:01 | timelyx | set d2=1 |
| 08:01 | timelyx | cvs-mirror.mozilla.org |
| 08:02 | CGI156 | itz not pinging |
| 08:03 | timelyx | have you made any changes to bugzilla? |
| 08:03 | CGI156 | no |
| 08:03 | CGI156 | i have downloaded tarball and extracted to c:\ |
| 08:03 | timelyx | [timeless@konigsberg tmp]$ ping cvs-mirror.mozilla.org |
| 08:03 | timelyx | PING cvs-mirror.glb.mozilla.com (63.245.209.14) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 08:03 | timelyx | 64 bytes from cvs-mirror.sj.mozilla.com (63.245.209.14): icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=154 ms |
| 08:04 | timelyx | if you haven't made changes, then you could download a new tarball to a new directory and migrate over the data file/directories ... but you should probably use nslookup (the three lines i listed above) to find out what's wrong |
| 08:04 | CGI156 | i have tried for nslookup and added set d2=1 {error message is can't find address for server d2=1: Non-existent domain} |
| 08:07 | CGI156 | now wht shld i do |
| 08:07 | justdave | you don't need to cvs update |
| 08:07 | timelyx | err |
| 08:07 | justdave | you already have the tarball |
| 08:07 | CGI156 | yes |
| 08:07 | timelyx | when did you get the tarball? |
| 08:08 | timelyx | (or of what) |
| 08:08 | justdave | he's got 3.0.5 |
| 08:08 | CGI156 | now |
| 08:08 | timelyx | oh, yeah don't bother |
| 08:08 | timelyx | try: |
| 08:08 | timelyx | set DEBUG=1 |
| 08:08 | justdave | he's behind an authenticating proxy server |
| 08:08 | CGI156 | i did |
| 08:08 | * timelyx thought set D2=1 worked, ... or was it set D2 ? | |
| 08:08 | timelyx | oh |
| 08:08 | timelyx | gah |
| 08:08 | timelyx | sorry |
| 08:09 | justdave | which means ppm probably won't work out-of-the-box either |
| 08:09 | CGI156 | yes |
| 08:09 | justdave | he'll have to find the proxy settings in ppm and set them up |
| 08:09 | justdave | ppm will talk to a proxy, but you have to set it up to know it has to |
| 08:09 | justdave | I don't know how to do that though, I only know people have done it |
| 08:10 | CGI156 | so how to be done that |
| 08:10 | justdave | seems like you had to set environment variables from Explorer first before launching ppm |
| 08:11 | CGI156 | oky i will try by no to authentic this port |
| 08:11 | justdave | http://www.xav.com/perl/faq/ActivePerl-faq2.html#ppm_and_proxies |
| 08:12 | justdave | the Windows NT directions should work on anything newer than WinME :) |
| 08:13 | CGI156 | yes |
| 08:13 | CGI156 | i will do it |
| 08:14 | justdave | the above link was found by searching for "ppm proxy" on Google, for what it's worth :) |
| 08:20 | timelyx | bbaetz: fwiw a number of sites i deal in don't run servers on http: at all |
| 08:25 | timelyx | justdave: thanks |
| 08:26 | timelyx | finally got to the dreamhost email |
| 08:26 | timelyx | so i guess "hands off until futrher notice" |
| 08:26 | justdave | oh, yeah, was going to ask if you saw that |
| 08:26 | timelyx | some typos expected |
| 08:26 | timelyx | i saw that you had sent it, but i was too tired to do anything about it |
| 08:26 | justdave | was rather nice of him to add you to the CC of my other ticket, too, that had nothing to do with you. :) |
| 08:27 | timelyx | ? |
| 08:27 | timelyx | oh |
| 08:27 | timelyx | you mean wp-config? |
| 08:27 | justdave | not that I care, wasn't anything I hadn't already been chatting up on #dreamhost anyway :) |
| 08:27 | justdave | yeah |
| 08:28 | timelyx | well it seems almost all issues you had applied to me too |
| 08:28 | timelyx | i don't blame him for including me for that one minor bit |
| 08:28 | timelyx | are they distinct tickets? |
| 08:28 | justdave | yeah, their system opens a new ticket every time you use the form or email them |
| 08:29 | justdave | so that one email was technically replying to 4 tickets at once |
| 08:29 | * timelyx sighs | |
| 08:29 | timelyx | have i told you my iPod touch story? |
| 08:29 | timelyx | i live in finland, as does my coworker |
| 08:29 | timelyx | my windows laptop speaks en-us, his speaks ru |
| 08:29 | timelyx | we both installed iTunes 8 |
| 08:30 | timelyx | which for me speaks en-us * and for him ru * |
| 08:30 | justdave | the one was "you broke my wife's wordpress install, please fix it before I have to face her wrath" :) |
| 08:30 | timelyx | except that when you try to use iTunes 8 to update your iPod apps, it tells you the Terms/Conditions have changed and you need to accept them |
| 08:30 | timelyx | justdave: oh, i remember that :) |
| 08:30 | justdave | the second was "I figured out what you broke and fixed it myself, but the installer is still busted" |
| 08:31 | timelyx | anyway, when you go to accept them, the Terms are in Finnish |
| 08:31 | timelyx | sadly neither of us speak Finnish ... |
| 08:31 | justdave | takes you a Finnish one based on GeoIP :) |
| 08:31 | timelyx | yep |
| 08:31 | timelyx | actually, the ru laptop is better |
| 08:31 | timelyx | the title for Terms is in en-us, as are two or three labels |
| 08:31 | timelyx | but the text is pure Finnish, and the app is ru |
| 08:32 | timelyx | so far apple has given me a few voucher credits at the itunes store |
| 08:32 | justdave | send Apple feedback about it? :) |
| 08:32 | justdave | ah, you did. :) |
| 08:32 | timelyx | and a supervisor promised to get it fixed in a future version |
| 08:32 | timelyx | but the stupid middle tech people... |
| 08:32 | timelyx | gah, first i called them, they suggested i try changing store country |
| 08:33 | timelyx | which then forgets who i am, asks me to log in again, and then says your account is tied to finland, you must switch. <loop> |
| 08:33 | timelyx | then they said that itunes is only services by a web form |
| 08:33 | timelyx | the location of which was not present |
| 08:33 | timelyx | (it had moved...) |
| 08:33 | justdave | I installed iTunes 8 but I haven't tried syncing my iPod yet since then |
| 08:34 | timelyx | i filled out the form and eventually got an email from them saying this isn't supported by their email, call applecare |
| 08:34 | timelyx | i replied to them saying that wasn't acceptable - hence the credits |
| 08:34 | timelyx | then i called them while i was in a car for a while |
| 08:34 | timelyx | i got to listen to nice hold music for a long time :) |
| 08:34 | timelyx | the first level techy insisted they needed my ipod touch's SN just to help me |
| 08:34 | timelyx | all i wanted to do was file a technical bug! |
| 08:35 | * timelyx is pretty sure techy was Indian | |
| 08:36 | timelyx | anyway, until then, my ipod is in a sleeve of a jacket i haven't worn since it got cold about a week ago |
| 08:41 | justdave | heh. "Apple releases new iPhone software" on the front page of CNN.com |
| 08:41 | timelyx | cnn? wow |
| 08:41 | justdave | must have been a slow news day :) |
| 08:42 | justdave | http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/09/12/iphone.update.ap/index.html |
| 08:44 | timelyx | funny that shares slid in trading |
| 08:44 | timelyx | but i think that's because the market was busy tanking |
| 08:45 | justdave | that was probably more related to Lehman Brothers filing bankruptcy and Merryl Lynch getting bought out. |
| 08:45 | timelyx | yeah |
| 08:45 | timelyx | did you see best buy bought napster? |
| 08:45 | timelyx | the reporting on that was great |
| 08:45 | justdave | saw the headline, didn't read the article yet |
| 08:45 | timelyx | they said that the purchase price could be seen as a rounding error on best buy's books |
| 08:46 | timelyx | (negligible, especially since napster had a lot of cash on hand - ~50% of price) |
| 08:51 | timelyx | hrm |
| 08:51 | timelyx | is there a bug filed that clicking 'mark as duplicate' doesn't focus the dupid field? |
| 08:52 | justdave | try it on bugzilla-stage-tip? |
| 08:52 | justdave | there were recent fixes related to that that haven't made it to production yet |
| 08:52 | timelyx | i'll go to work and try there |
| 08:53 | justdave | in fact, I was meaning to push that into production before I went to bed tonight |
| 09:00 | justdave | ok, it's been pushed |
| 09:06 | * timelyx ponders | |
| 09:06 | timelyx | reed / justdave / et al |
| 09:06 | timelyx | when you add target milestones |
| 09:06 | timelyx | do you often need to add versions too? |
| 09:09 | timelyx | justdave: duplicate doesn't have the focus feature on b.m.o |
| 09:09 | justdave | you shift-reloaded to pick up js/css changes? |
| 09:11 | justdave | yep, you're right. |
| 09:11 | justdave | file a bug on that |
| 09:11 | justdave | Bugzilla product, that'll be an upstream thing |
| 09:12 | timelyx | filing |
| 09:12 | timelyx | the other one works |
| 09:12 | timelyx | heh, yeah, i went straight to upstream |
| 09:14 | justdave | bug 448696 is the closest match |
| 09:14 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448696 User Interface, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 3.2, guy.pyrzak%gmail.com, RESOLVED FIXED, "(edit)" links should focus the text box and select all text in them |
| 09:16 | bugbot | reed%mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 448812 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| 09:16 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448812 Tinderbox, minor, --, ---, cls%seawood.org, RESOLVED FIXED, Stray "Content-type: text/html" on tinderbox doadmin.cgi |
| 09:16 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: Creating/Changing Bugs bug 455476 filed by timeless%bemail.org. |
| 09:16 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455476 Creating/Changing Bugs, enhancement, --, ---, guy.pyrzak%gmail.com, NEW, clicking mark as duplicate should focus the dup_id field |
| 09:17 | * timelyx sighs crash-stats is unusably slow | |
| 09:17 | timelyx | alright. gotta go eat or something |
| 09:17 | timelyx | thanks a lot |
| 09:17 | timelyx | the upgrades are appreciated, as are the trouble tickets :) |
| 09:21 | bugbot | reed%mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 453671 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| 09:21 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453671 Tinderbox, normal, --, ---, cls%seawood.org, RESOLVED FIXED, "Add a Comment to the Log" from a tinderbox log produces "Invalid parameters" error |
| 09:28 | * timelyx sighs | |
| 09:28 | timelyx | i really wish bugzilla remembered which comments it had sent out to whom |
| 09:28 | timelyx | when a bug transitions from 'you could not have seen this' to 'you can see this' |
| 09:29 | timelyx | i really would like to get bugmail for all the comments that i could not see while it was in the previous state, but which i can see now |
| 09:34 | IMLOVINIT | Hi all.Can you tell me how to control who gets to see what custom field? cos user in group command will apply to the whole set right? |
| 09:38 | justdave | 3user.in_group will apply to whatever you wrap it around |
| 09:38 | justdave | -3 |
| 09:39 | justdave | [% IF user.in_group('can_see_this_field') %] |
| 09:39 | justdave | code to display field goes here |
| 09:39 | justdave | [% END %] |
| 09:40 | justdave | whatever's between the IF and the END will show up if they're in that group and not if they aren't |
| 09:41 | justdave | could be one field or several of them |
| 09:41 | IMLOVINIT | justdave:That'll be fine for individual fields. But what if I want to control a single custom field among few custom fields? |
| 09:41 | IMLOVINIT | I have 10 custom fields |
| 09:41 | justdave | if it's doing a loop on the custom fields to show them all, then you might need to also check the name of the field in your IF |
| 09:42 | IMLOVINIT | I want to control who gets to see only 1 particular field |
| 09:43 | justdave | [% IF field.name != 'cf_restrictedfield' OR user.in_group('can_see_restricted_field') %] |
| 09:43 | justdave | dunno if field.name is actually it or not, that's a guess |
| 09:43 | justdave | you'll have to look at the surrounding code to see what it's using for that |
| 09:44 | IMLOVINIT | sure man.... |
| 09:45 | * timelyx gets back to mkanat's milestone question | |
| 09:45 | timelyx | justdave: does sites.everythingsolved require an account? |
| 09:47 | timelyx | justdave: ok. i'm going to work |
| 09:47 | timelyx | i'll deal w/ sites.everythingsolved from there |
| 10:06 | tigger | I want to authenticate Bugzilla against NIS; is there a document or page somewhere that gives details of how to do that? |
| 10:15 | timely | NIS isn't one of the supported backends |
| 10:15 | tigger | OK, thanks |
| 10:15 | timely | it's pluggable |
| 10:15 | timely | http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/....html#param-user-authentication |
| 10:16 | timely | you can setup LDAP, Env, or bugzilla's own easily |
| 10:16 | timely | it might be possible to have Env work w/ NIS |
| 10:16 | tigger | OK, thanks for pointer |
| 10:17 | timely | looks like there's even support for radius... |
| 10:17 | timely | http://mxr.mozilla.org/bugzilla/find?string=Auth |
| 10:17 | timely | anyway, browse through those bits.... probably you're going to need to add a Verify/NIS.pm and hopefully derive it from something |
| 10:19 | tigger | thanks again |
| 10:25 | timely | please contribute your module when you have it :) |
| 10:29 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: Query/Bug List bug 455481 filed by timeless%bemail.org. |
| 10:29 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455481 Query/Bug List, enhancement, --, ---, query-and-buglist%bugzilla.bugs, UNCONFIRMED, don't show fixed in if there are no products which have it |
| 10:30 | IMLOVINIT | Yep was able to control who sees what in a list of custom fields.....Thanks 4 the help people.... |
| 13:28 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: Creating/Changing Bugs bug 455497 filed by cakrt%dsoft.cz. |
| 13:28 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455497 Creating/Changing Bugs, normal, --, ---, create-and-change%bugzilla.bugs, UNCONFIRMED, Crash when adding a comment to a bug. |
| 14:36 | LpSolit | felis-: are you the one interested by QA? :) |
| 14:36 | * LpSolit briefly saw something about QA in the log of the channel | |
| 14:43 | nemo | Hey folks. What's up with: |
| 14:43 | nemo | http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/3.1b1pre/whatsnew/ |
| 14:43 | nemo | Is like some templating system is exposed? |
| 14:45 | LpSolit | fun, someone injected template-toolkit code there :) |
| 14:52 | timely | you want #bmo |
| 14:53 | timely | but yeah... please file a bug :) |
| 15:38 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com changed the Status on bug 450704 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| 15:38 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450704 Installation & Upgrading, normal, --, ---, installation%bugzilla.bugs, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, 3.2rc1: checksetup.pl claims XML::Twig needs installing but it already is |
| 15:40 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com changed the Status on bug 440352 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED WORKSFORME. |
| 15:40 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440352 Dependency Views, normal, --, ---, dependency.views%bugzilla.bugs, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Show dependency graph fails using local webdotbase under mod_perl |
| 15:43 | himorin | back to home. and starts reading e-mails. |
| 16:12 | bugbot | New Webtools :: Socorro bug 455525 filed by smichaud%pobox.com. |
| 16:12 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455525 Socorro, critical, --, ---, nobody%mozilla.org, NEW, Socorro can't find recent crashes by bug id |
| 16:48 | bugbot | New Webtools :: Webtest bug 455537 filed by laura%mozilla.com. |
| 16:48 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455537 Webtest, normal, --, ---, nobody%mozilla.org, NEW, Automate running tests on load test cluster for every AMO revision |
| 17:07 | bugbot | ted.mielczarek%gmail.com marked bug 455525 as a duplicate of bug 455418. |
| 17:07 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455525 Socorro, critical, --, ---, nobody%mozilla.org, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Socorro can't find recent crashes by bug id |
| 17:07 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455418 Socorro, normal, --, ---, nobody%mozilla.org, NEW, "Unable to complete request" error when trying to retrieve crash data |
| 17:15 | bugbot | rdoherty%mozilla.com added attachment 338887 to bug 438710 |
| 17:15 | bugbot | rdoherty%mozilla.com requested review from anodelman%mozilla.c om for attachment 338887 on bug 438710. |
| 17:15 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338887&action=edit patch, Fix for half sized intervals, intervals.diff |
| 17:15 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438710 Graph Server, normal, --, 0.6, rdoherty%mozilla.com, NEW, new front end displays half sized intervals for series sets. |
| 17:31 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: Query/Bug List bug 455545 filed by ejb%ql.org. |
| 17:31 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455545 Query/Bug List, enhancement, --, ---, query-and-buglist%bugzilla.bugs, UNCONFIRMED, unable to set default search without running search |
| 17:35 | felis | hi all |
| 17:47 | LpSolit | Cedric: it seems you forgot some changes, about timezone |
| 17:48 | Cedric | LpSolit: Possible. Which bug number please ? |
| 17:49 | LpSolit | Cedric: bug 182238 |
| 17:49 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182238 User Interface, enhancement, P1, Bugzilla 3.4, LpSolit%gmail.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow users to choose what time zone to display times in |
| 17:49 | Cedric | Thanks. I'm going to check that |
| 17:50 | LpSolit | Cedric: only the change in template/fr/default/global/setting-descs.none.tmpl is missing |
| 17:51 | LpSolit | Cedric: other templates are already fixed |
| 17:51 | Cedric | ah, ok cool. Only on trunk or 3.2 branch too ? |
| 17:51 | Cedric | the target is set to 3.4 |
| 17:52 | LpSolit | only trunk |
| 17:52 | Cedric | thnaks |
| 17:52 | Cedric | thanks even |
| 17:55 | LpSolit | meeting in 6 minutes in #bugzilla-meeting |
| 17:59 | LpSolit | pyrzak, justdave, dkl ^^ |
| 18:11 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted review for attachment 338202 on bug 452896. |
| 18:11 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338202&action=edit patch, v1, milestone-noprivs.diff |
| 18:11 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452896 Creating/Changing Bugs, major, --, Bugzilla 3.2, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, A user with no privs who reported a bug cannot move it to another product if the target milestone is set |
| 18:30 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: User Interface bug 455558 filed by mkanat%bugzilla.org. |
| 18:30 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted blocking3.2 on bug 455558. |
| 18:30 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455558 User Interface, normal, --, Bugzilla 3.2, guy.pyrzak%gmail.com, NEW, Custom free text fields too long (particularly in Dusk) |
| 18:37 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: User Interface bug 455559 filed by LpSolit%gmail.com. |
| 18:37 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455559 User Interface, minor, --, ---, ui%bugzilla.bugs, NEW, The requestee field should be narrower in show_bug.cgi |
| 19:10 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted blocking3.2 on bug 141951. |
| 19:10 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141951 Installation & Upgrading, major, P1, Bugzilla 3.0, mkanat%bugzilla.org, NEW, Set the max_packet_size for attachments (and bugs_fulltext) when connecting to MySQL |
| 19:13 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted blocking3.2 on bug 434008. |
| 19:13 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434008 User Interface, minor, P1, Bugzilla 3.2, guy.pyrzak%gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Readonly custom field texts appear too small |
| 19:14 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 100601 from Bugzilla 3.2 to ---. |
| 19:14 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100601 Query/Bug List, normal, P4, ---, query-and-buglist%bugzilla.bugs, ASSIGNED, exclude bugs numbered is horribly inefficient and broken too |
| 19:21 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted blocking3.2 on bug 453337. |
| 19:21 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453337 User Interface, minor, P1, Bugzilla 3.2, guy.pyrzak%gmail.com, REOPENED, enter_bug (New Bug) UI bounces up and down when you change the component because description changes height |
| 19:28 | timely | um |
| 19:28 | timely | is the insider group documented? |
| 19:30 | timely | heh |
| 19:32 | bugbot | cls%seawood.org added attachment 338912 to bug 455457 |
| 19:32 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338912&action=edit patch, v1.2, tb-enable-ssl-v1.2.patch |
| 19:32 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455457 Tinderbox, enhancement, --, ---, cls%seawood.org, NEW, Add SSL support |
| 19:34 | timely | hrm |
| 19:34 | timely | doesn't bmo have some hack so people can mark bugs as security bugs? |
| 19:35 | timely | or is that only in guided? |
| 19:36 | cls | I didn't mark it as a security bug as it was a decade old issue. not exactly urgent. |
| 19:36 | cls | the cookie mucking does change that slightly |
| 19:38 | himorin | uggg.. nearly sleeping. lol |
| 19:38 | timely | reed/justdave: could bzr be installed on konigsberg? |
| 19:40 | * justdave could swear bzr was in rpmforge, but it's not finding it | |
| 19:40 | mkanat | justdave: It's in epel. |
| 19:40 | justdave | ah |
| 19:40 | timely | hi mkanat |
| 19:41 | * timely sighs | |
| 19:41 | timely | update-src.pl didn't usefully complain that bzr was missing |
| 19:41 | * timely adds it to a todo list | |
| 19:41 | justdave | Name : bzr Relocations: (not relocatable) |
| 19:41 | justdave | Version : 1.3.1 Vendor: Fedora Project <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla> |
| 19:47 | timely | justdave: did you install it? |
| 19:50 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com granted review for attachment 338423 on bug 454892. |
| 19:50 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338423&action=edit patch, v2, clean-better.diff |
| 19:50 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454892 Query/Bug List, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 3.4, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, Improve Bugzilla::CGI::clean_search_url to remove all the normal "default" fields |
| 19:51 | justdave | timely: not yet, still hunting the epel-release package |
| 19:52 | justdave | (and trying to do 2 or 3 other things at once) |
| 19:52 | timely | ok |
| 19:52 | timely | i managed to convince bzr to run out of ~ |
| 19:52 | timely | so i'm not absolutely certain it's necessary |
| 19:52 | timely | although ~ doesn't help cron |
| 19:52 | timely | fwiw, slackware packages are nice :) |
| 19:53 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org changed the Status on bug 454892 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| 19:53 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted approval on bug 454892. |
| 19:53 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454892 Query/Bug List, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 3.4, mkanat%bugzilla.org, RESOLVED FIXED, Improve Bugzilla::CGI::clean_search_url to remove all the normal "default" fields |
| 19:54 | timely | ok, mkanat, help |
| 19:54 | timely | http://mxr-test.konigsberg.mozilla...it=&tree=bugzillamozilla-bzr |
| 19:54 | timely | Too many hits, displaying the first 1000 |
| 19:54 | timely | /template/en/default/bug/create/create.html.tmpl.OTHER |
| 19:54 | timely | * line 577 -- This is a security problem that should be kept confidential until addressed |
| 19:54 | timely | /template/en/default/bug/create/create-guided.html.tmpl |
| 19:54 | timely | * line 490 -- This is a security problem that should be kept confidential until addressed |
| 19:54 | timely | /template/en/default/bug/create/create.html.tmpl.BASE |
| 19:54 | timely | * line 577 -- This is a security problem that should be kept confidential until addressed |
| 19:54 | timely | why do i have conflict marking files? |
| 19:54 | timely | i don't make changes to bzr |
| 19:55 | timely | and there are quite a few of those stupid things |
| 19:55 | timely | http://mxr-test.konigsberg.mozilla...zilla-bzr/find?string=BASE|OTHER |
| 19:56 | timely | bzr diff says: |
| 19:56 | timely | === renamed file '.bzrignore' => '.bzrignore.OTHER' |
| 19:56 | timely | === renamed file 'Bugzilla.pm' => 'Bugzilla.pm.OTHER' |
| 19:56 | timely | === removed file 'Bugzilla/Attachment.pm' |
| 19:57 | timely | === renamed file 'Bugzilla/DB/Mysql.pm' => 'Bugzilla/DB/Mysql.pm.OTHER' |
| 19:57 | timely | === removed file 'Bugzilla/DB/Schema.pm' |
| 19:59 | timely | [timeless@konigsberg bugzilla]$ bzr co |
| 19:59 | timely | bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/data/mxr-data/bugzillamozilla-bzr/bugzilla/.bzr': [Errno 17] File exists: '/data/mxr-data/bugzillamozilla-bzr/bugzilla/.bzr' |
| 19:59 | * timely sighs | |
| 20:02 | * timely sighs | |
| 20:02 | timely | bzr sucks |
| 20:09 | mkanat | timely: WTF are you doing? |
| 20:09 | mkanat | timely: If you're just trying to import something, all you need to do is co and then pull regularly. |
| 20:09 | mkanat | or "up" regularly. |
| 20:10 | mkanat | If you have OTHER and BASE files, you must be merging or something, which there's no reason to do. |
| 20:10 | mkanat | In fact, you must be merging from divergent branches. |
| 20:10 | mconnor | mkanat: so, I have a bug |
| 20:10 | mkanat | mconnor: Okay. What's up? |
| 20:10 | mconnor | mkanat: live titles support has a bug, to be specific |
| 20:10 | mconnor | mkanat: save a search that ends in + |
| 20:11 | mconnor | like, blocking+ |
| 20:11 | mkanat | Yeah, i have one of those. |
| 20:11 | mconnor | now try to bookmark it in Firefox and set a live title |
| 20:11 | * LpSolit has two ending with "+" | |
| 20:11 | mkanat | mconnor: How do I do that? |
| 20:12 | mconnor | go to bookmark, there's a dropdown on the title |
| 20:12 | mkanat | Hmm. |
| 20:12 | mkanat | Yeah, that's odd. |
| 20:13 | * harlan waves | |
| 20:13 | mkanat | mconnor: That only happens with the + ones? |
| 20:13 | mconnor | mkanat: seems so! |
| 20:13 | mkanat | mconnor: Okay, I'll look into it. (That's a bmo customization.) |
| 20:15 | mconnor | mkanat: thanks |
| 20:15 | mkanat | justdave: You ever get that bzr:// hole poked for dm-bustage? |
| 20:15 | mconnor | it really should be a core feature, IMO :) |
| 20:16 | mkanat | mconnor: Probably. Feel free to convince Justin to fund us moving *anything* upstream. :-) |
| 20:16 | reed_ | timely: yes, but not until intarwebs start to work |
| 20:17 | mconnor | mkanat: I thought that was expected as part of the work, since otherwise its more work to upgrade? |
| 20:17 | mkanat | mconnor: No, it was explicitly not funded. |
| 20:17 | mconnor | huh |
| 20:18 | reed_ | that seems very lame |
| 20:18 | reed_ | MoCo only hacks are lame |
| 20:18 | reed_ | and make me hulk angry |
| 20:18 | mkanat | lol |
| 20:19 | mkanat | Well, feel free to talk to Justin about it. |
| 20:19 | reed_ | well, how much extra time does it take? or are you explicitly doing stuff in a hacky way so you can't put it upstream? seems like if you started work on the patch for upstream, then you could just backport it to bmo easily |
| 20:20 | mkanat | reed_: It's both. |
| 20:20 | mkanat | reed_: Doing something upstream in the right way takes much longer than a local customization. |
| 20:20 | mkanat | reed_: Largely because the audience is much wider, and because I know that we're going to have to maintain the code. |
| 20:21 | mkanat | reed_: So it's much harder to get an r+ for an upstream patch. |
| 20:21 | reed_ | you're just digging a hole for yourself with local customizations, though |
| 20:21 | mkanat | reed_: Also as time goes on, upstream and bmo diverge more and more. |
| 20:21 | mkanat | reed_: Well, actually, you're digging a hole, not me. :-) |
| 20:21 | mkanat | reed_: You in the sense of MoCo. :-) |
| 20:22 | mkanat | But it was explicitly decided to dig the hole. |
| 20:22 | reed_ | so lame |
| 20:22 | * justdave doesn't like that very much | |
| 20:22 | mkanat | Every time I propose something, I always ask, "Do you want this upstream?" and the answer is always "You're free to do that if you want, but we aren't funding it." |
| 20:23 | mkanat | All the code we write is licensed under the MPL, it's all OSS, but it would take more effort to bring it upstream. |
| 20:23 | mkanat | This happens for a lot of clients. |
| 20:23 | mkanat | I wrote some perfectly good custom field code for NASA> |
| 20:23 | mkanat | Like, really great stuff, actually. |
| 20:23 | mkanat | And actually...they paid me to bring it upstream, so that doesn't count. :-) |
| 20:23 | mkanat | It's just not done yet. :-) |
| 20:24 | * mkanat makes a note to finish that. | |
| 20:27 | justdave | it feels strange to complain to the CEO about that situation |
| 20:28 | mkanat | justdave: To John? |
| 20:28 | justdave | but that's who justin reports to now, so if you're going to go over his head on it.... :) |
| 20:28 | mkanat | justdave: I think it'd be fine if just you and reed and mconnor talked to Justin about it. |
| 20:28 | justdave | I'll try to talk some sense into justin first |
| 20:28 | justdave | yeah |
| 20:28 | mkanat | Yeah. |
| 20:29 | reed_ | it makes no sense at all for us not to fund contributions to a Mozilla project |
| 20:29 | reed_ | that's like saying we need a Mozilla Firefox Corporation Edition |
| 20:29 | reed_ | er |
| 20:29 | reed_ | Mozilla Firefox Corporate Edition |
| 20:29 | mkanat | Particularly since you've been reaping the rewards of Bugzilla for essentially free for many many years. :-) |
| 20:29 | reed_ | yeah |
| 20:30 | mkanat | While being quite demanding whenever we do a rollout on bmo. :-) |
| 20:32 | mkanat | From my position as Chief Engineer of Everything Solved, I don't have any problem with it. |
| 20:33 | mkanat | I'm happy to do whatever customizations any client wants. |
| 20:33 | mkanat | From my position as Assistant Project Lead of the Bugzilla Project, it's extremely annoying. |
| 20:33 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: Bugzilla-General bug 455583 filed by dkl%redhat.com. |
| 20:33 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com added attachment 338931 to bug 455583 |
| 20:33 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com requested review from LpSolit%gmail.com for attachment 338931 on bug 455583. |
| 20:33 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338931&action=edit patch, Patch to use flag group ids in Bugzilla/User.pm (v1), flag_group_ids.patch |
| 20:33 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455583 Bugzilla-General, normal, --, ---, general%bugzilla.bugs, NEW, Bugzilla::User::can_{set,request}_flag methods should use the respective {grant,request}_group_id values instead of loading new Group object |
| 20:34 | mkanat | Largely that Mozilla is so demanding of us, and though they do give us some great infrastructure help, they haven't really ever funded development. |
| 20:34 | bugbot | reed%mozilla.com changed the Product on bug 452757 from mozilla.org to Bugzilla. |
| 20:34 | bugbot | reed%mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 452757 from --- to Bugzilla 3.2. |
| 20:34 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452757 Documentation, trivial, --, Bugzilla 3.2, documentation%bugzilla.bugs, REOPENED, Voting help page is out-of-date |
| 20:34 | bugbot | reed%mozilla.com requested approval from the wind on bug 452757. |
| 20:34 | bugbot | reed%mozilla.com requested approval3.2 from the wind on bug 452757. |
| 20:35 | justdave | how much do they do for SeaMonkey and Camino? That'd be the best comparisons |
| 20:36 | mkanat | justdave: Except that we're like 8 years older than SeaMonkey, and still several years older than Camino. :-) |
| 20:36 | mkanat | justdave: And we probably have more end users than Camino does. |
| 20:36 | mkanat | And Mozilla itself is far more dependent upon our work than they are with the other two projects. |
| 20:37 | mkanat | And I doubt that Mozilla makes demands of those projects, either. :-) |
| 20:37 | mconnor | mkanat: we kinda control their release schedules to a large extent :) |
| 20:37 | mkanat | mconnor: Just because they depend on your code? |
| 20:37 | mconnor | mkanat: yeah |
| 20:38 | mkanat | Yeah. That'd be more like the reverse, where they'd be making some demand of you. :-) |
| 20:38 | mconnor | no so much demands but we create lots of work for them |
| 20:38 | mkanat | mconnor: That's kind of the basic nature of their products, though, eh? |
| 20:39 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: User Accounts bug 455584 filed by dkl%redhat.com. |
| 20:39 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com added attachment 338932 to bug 455584 |
| 20:39 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com requested review from mkanat%bugzilla.org for attachment 338932 on bug 455584. |
| 20:39 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338932&action=edit patch, Patch to use bz_crypt() everywhere instead of crypt() (v1), wide_char_password_bz_crypt.patch |
| 20:39 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455584 User Accounts, normal, --, Bugzilla 3.4, dkl%redhat.com, NEW, Use bz_crypt everywhere instead of the crypt() function |
| 20:40 | mconnor | mkanat: sure, didn't say its perfect or anything |
| 20:40 | mkanat | mconnor: For sure, for sure. |
| 20:41 | mkanat | But Bugzilla, as far as I'm aware, is the only webtool that you guys come and say, "We need it to do this," that's not actually maintained by the Corporation. Well, except maybe mxr. |
| 20:41 | mconnor | buildbot? |
| 20:42 | mkanat | mconnor: Yeah, but you also contribute to that, right? |
| 20:42 | mconnor | sure |
| 20:42 | mkanat | Yeah, Mozilla actually doesn't even have any employees who really do any extensive upstream work. |
| 20:42 | mkanat | reed probably does the most. |
| 20:42 | mconnor | mkanat: we don't do a ton of general upstream work for buildbot either |
| 20:43 | reed_ | I like helping others... what can I say? :) |
| 20:43 | mkanat | :-) |
| 20:43 | mconnor | we contribute stuff we do, but we don't maintain core buildbot or anything |
| 20:43 | reed_ | mconnor: rarely, that is |
| 20:43 | reed_ | I monitor all buildbot patches, and it's once in a blue moon that I see somebody from Mozilla upstreaming a patch |
| 20:44 | mconnor | reed_: right |
| 20:44 | mkanat | Okay. So that'd be almost another fair example. |
| 20:44 | mkanat | Of course, Bugzilla is also nominally a Mozilla project. |
| 20:44 | mconnor | sure |
| 20:44 | mconnor | doesn't the foundation give you guys stuff? |
| 20:44 | mkanat | mconnor: The Foundation gives us only what we raise in donations, for the most part. |
| 20:45 | mkanat | mconnor: They were nice enough to buy me a ticket to OSCON using an advance on our donations, though. |
| 20:45 | reed_ | I do enjoy how we spend so little on maintaining our own tools. </sarcasm> |
| 20:45 | mkanat | reed_: lol |
| 20:45 | reed_ | no own for tinderbox or bonsai |
| 20:45 | reed_ | owner* |
| 20:46 | mkanat | reed_: Well, I suspect bonsai will die anyway as we move away from CVS. |
| 20:46 | mconnor | reed_: tinderbox gets some work |
| 20:46 | mkanat | Yeah, Tinderbox gets a bit of love. |
| 20:46 | ghendricks | mkanat: where are the foreign keys defined for the bugzilla tables? |
| 20:46 | mconnor | it doesn't need a ton of work |
| 20:46 | mkanat | That's pretty much actually maintained by Mozilla. |
| 20:46 | mkanat | ghendricks: In the Schema. |
| 20:46 | ghendricks | in 3.2 |
| 20:46 | reed_ | mkanat: except when cls complains and starts refusing to work on HEAD |
| 20:46 | mkanat | reed_: lol |
| 20:47 | craig | have you guys ever considered introducing some kind of "pay for product"? (yes, i realize what a pandora's box that may open :> ) |
| 20:47 | mkanat | craig: I might do that, as Everything Solved. |
| 20:47 | ghendricks | ah, REFERENCES |
| 20:47 | craig | like a "pro" version? |
| 20:47 | mkanat | craig: I might make proprietary extensions. |
| 20:47 | pyrzak | craig: mostly you just hire everything solved if you want that :D |
| 20:47 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com changed the Status on bug 452757 from REOPENED to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| 20:47 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted approval on bug 452757. |
| 20:47 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted approval3.2 on bug 452757. |
| 20:47 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452757 Documentation, trivial, --, Bugzilla 3.2, LpSolit%gmail.com, RESOLVED FIXED, Voting help page is out-of-date |
| 20:48 | pyrzak | craig: and if you're nice, you pay for stuff to be done directly on bugzilla |
| 20:48 | craig | mkanat: pay for cusomtimzation :) |
| 20:48 | ghendricks | something didn't get merged right on my end I think >< |
| 20:48 | craig | mkanat: i was looking at the survey results |
| 20:49 | mkanat | craig: Ah. :-) |
| 20:49 | craig | mkanat: you mentioned at the beginning that vmware used bz for "IT", but you really don't seem to mention any IT-ish stuff alter (keep in mind i've only skimmed it so far) |
| 20:49 | robzilla | bugzilla question: I'm installing on a new Fedora box, and checksetup complains that Template isn't installed. It says "not found" (requires 2.15). However, I installed it with CPAN, and the version is 2.20. What gives? |
| 20:49 | craig | stuff *later* |
| 20:49 | mkanat | craig: I dunnow, that's what they gave me. :-) |
| 20:49 | mkanat | robzilla: If you're using Fedora, just "yum install bugzilla; rpm -e bugzilla" |
| 20:50 | mkanat | robzilla: That will get you all of the dependencies installed automatically via yum. |
| 20:50 | mkanat | robzilla: CPAN is bad when you have RPM packages available. |
| 20:50 | robzilla | mkanat: will this install bugzilla as well? |
| 20:50 | craig | mkanat: without giving anything away.. were there any "interesting installs" that couldn't/wouldn't participate? |
| 20:50 | mkanat | robzilla: Well, the command I gave you removed Bugzilla after installing it, but keeps the deps. |
| 20:50 | mkanat | craig: There were some that just didn't reply. |
| 20:51 | craig | mkanat: i.e. was this a pretty good cross section of installs or was there more you would have LIKED to cover |
| 20:51 | robzilla | mkanat: ok thanks - I'll give it a shot |
| 20:51 | mkanat | craig: Well, there were 24 people I asked. |
| 20:51 | craig | mkanat: ya... works gets in the way... damnit :) |
| 20:51 | mkanat | craig: And I got something like 14 responses. So... :-) |
| 20:51 | craig | mkanat: but, did you feel like it was a pretty good cross section? or is there a segment you feel may have been mised? |
| 20:52 | mconnor | mkanat: really, let's turn the question around, what does bugzilla need in general? |
| 20:52 | mkanat | craig: I think small installations might have been missed. |
| 20:52 | craig | mkanat: like mine :) |
| 20:52 | mkanat | mconnor: Well, most of all we need new reviewers. :-) |
| 20:52 | craig | mkanat: i think i can give my feed back in IRC ;) :) |
| 20:52 | mkanat | mconnor: But in terms of features, we mark enhancements with a priority system, and P1 and P2 are the ones we really want, and I've triaged all those so that they're accurate. |
| 20:53 | bugbot | ghendricks%novell.com granted review for attachment 338722 on bug 453023. |
| 20:53 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338722&action=edit patch, patch, v1, bug00-cvs.diff |
| 20:53 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453023 User Interface, minor, --, ---, LpSolit%gmail.com, ASSIGNED, No link to severity and priority descriptions anymore after upgrade to 3.2 |
| 20:54 | mconnor | mkanat: throw me a query to the P1s? |
| 20:54 | mkanat | mconnor: Sure. |
| 20:54 | robzilla | mkanat: I think that the docs should be updated to reflect your suggestion. The installation guide says the recommended method is CPAN |
| 20:54 | mkanat | robzilla: I agree. |
| 20:54 | mkanat | bugbot: query doc package distro |
| 20:54 | bugbot | mkanat: No results for "doc package distro." |
| 20:54 | mkanat | bugbot: query doc package |
| 20:54 | bugbot | mkanat: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290533 Database, enhancement, P3, ---, mkanat%bugzilla.org, NEW, Clarify documentation on the use, structure, and rules of the Bugzilla::DB package |
| 20:54 | mkanat | Nope. |
| 20:54 | mkanat | Hmm. |
| 20:54 | mkanat | robzilla: Want to file a bug? |
| 20:55 | robzilla | mkanat: ok |
| 20:55 | mkanat | mconnor: http://tinyurl.com/6ff4re |
| 20:56 | mconnor | mkanat: I mean, at least we're doing _something_ |
| 20:56 | mconnor | if we were upstreaming, we'd be doing what's fair, at least wrt MoCo, imo |
| 20:56 | mkanat | mconnor: Well, you're providing infrastructure and IT support, which is really great. |
| 20:56 | mkanat | mconnor: Yeah, I agree, upstreaming the customizations, as far as MoCo goes, would be fair. |
| 20:56 | mconnor | keep in mind that MoCo != MoFo, and doesn't have the same goals |
| 20:56 | mkanat | mconnor: Yeah, for sure. |
| 20:57 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com added attachment 338934 to bug 99205 |
| 20:57 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com requested review from mkanat%bugzilla.org for attachment 338934 on bug 99205. |
| 20:57 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338934&action=edit patch, Patch to add multi edit for dependencies (v1), multi_edit_dependencies.patch |
| 20:57 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99205 Query/Bug List, enhancement, P1, ---, dkl%redhat.com, NEW, Allow mass-editing of dependencies |
| 20:58 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com added attachment 338936 to bug 99205 |
| 20:58 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com cancelled review?(mkanat%bugzilla.org ) for attachment 338934 on bug 99205. |
| 20:58 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com requested review from mkanat%bugzilla.org for attachment 338936 on bug 99205. |
| 20:58 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338936&action=edit patch, Patch to add multi edit for dependencies (v2), multi_edit_dependencies.patch |
| 20:59 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: Documentation bug 455585 filed by robzilla2%siklos.ca. |
| 20:59 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455585 Documentation, minor, --, ---, documentation%bugzilla.bugs, NEW, Installation docs should recommend using yum or rpm instead of CPAN |
| 20:59 | justdave | I think I suggested a while back that if we could detect what distro you were on we should give distro-specific instructions in checksetup.pl's output |
| 20:59 | justdave | we already do that for windows/activestate |
| 20:59 | bugbot | dkl%redhat.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 99205 from --- to Bugzilla 3.4. |
| 20:59 | cls | so if tinderbox has no owner, does that mean that I can claim ownership by deed and remove that crappy code from HEAD? |
| 20:59 | mkanat | justdave: It was too complex. |
| 21:00 | mkanat | cls: As far as I'm concerned. Not that I really have any say. |
| 21:00 | mkanat | cls: I pretty much thought that you were the owner. |
| 21:00 | justdave | what's the crappy code? |
| 21:02 | cls | bug 398050 |
| 21:02 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398050 Tinderbox, normal, --, ---, reed%mozilla.com, REOPENED, Tinderbox should store data about each bonsai/viewvc instance that it knows about |
| 21:02 | reed_ | cls: no, you may not. |
| 21:03 | cls | which means I'm not the owner and that's why I live on a branch |
| 21:03 | reed_ | your comments are wrong, too. |
| 21:03 | reed_ | "Why are the query option fields editable on each tree's admin page? That gives |
| 21:03 | reed_ | the impression that the values will be stored when the user chooses to 'Edit |
| 21:03 | reed_ | tree configuration'." |
| 21:03 | reed_ | they aren't |
| 21:03 | reed_ | only per-tree options are editable |
| 21:03 | reed_ | not stuff in queryconfig |
| 21:04 | reed_ | same goes for your other paragraph |
| 21:04 | reed_ | the stuff that can be generic is stored in queryconfig |
| 21:04 | reed_ | the stuff that changes is stored in each tree config |
| 21:04 | * Wolf has considered claiming mozbot in the same way. since its really unowned. heh. | |
| 21:04 | mkanat | Wolf: I think we'd give you mozbot. |
| 21:04 | reed_ | Wolf: you should |
| 21:05 | mkanat | Yeah, you should take mozbot. |
| 21:05 | mkanat | Hixie: Can Wolf have mozbot? :-) |
| 21:05 | mkanat | --- [Hixie] idle 179:43:58 |
| 21:05 | reed_ | lol |
| 21:05 | reed_ | Hixie gave up the project a long time ago |
| 21:05 | reed_ | it has no owner |
| 21:05 | Hixie | yes, wolf can have mozbot |
| 21:05 | reed_ | so, I see no reason why Wolf can't take it over |
| 21:05 | mkanat | I think that means Wolf can take it. |
| 21:05 | mkanat | Great! |
| 21:06 | mkanat | Wolf: mozbot is yours. :-) |
| 21:06 | Hixie | woot! |
| 21:06 | Wolf | yay. :-) |
| 21:08 | reed_ | mkanat: update the topic |
| 21:08 | reed_ | MXR now |
| 21:08 | reed_ | not LXR :) |
| 21:08 | cls | reed: *shrug* when I commented, I saw something different. and that doesn't address the previous issues raised in the bug |
| 21:08 | reed_ | cls: what else besides the migration thing do you have a problem with? |
| 21:09 | reed_ | is there anything else? |
| 21:09 | cls | reed: you do realize that because of the migration thing, I'm not looking at the rest of it. why do you think those other comments came *after* you took it live? |
| 21:10 | reed_ | how many tinderbox trees do you maintain? |
| 21:10 | cls | reed: more than 1. your point? |
| 21:11 | * mkanat just remembered that we have multi-select fields thanks to NASA. :-) | |
| 21:12 | * mkanat is looking back through the contract to see what they are funding to go upstream. | |
| 21:13 | cls | reed: how long did it take you migrate the tinderbox.m.o over by hand? how many scripts did you have to write and how many treedata.pls did you have to touch to get it right? and what makes you think that's the proper method that anyone who isn't a tinderbox developer should upgrade their working installation? without instruction even |
| 21:14 | reed_ | took less than hour to handle ~180 trees... I made some hacks to checksetup and tbglobals.pl to make it very automated... had to fix a few manually, but it was fairly painless |
| 21:15 | cls | when upgrading bugzilla, I'm always impressed at how things Just Work(tm). |
| 21:15 | mkanat | :-D |
| 21:16 | cls | with some generalized effort, the queryconfig.pl change could have been like that but it wasn't hence my annoyance |
| 21:17 | mconnor | can we fix that? |
| 21:17 | mconnor | I want Wordpress-easy upgrades for webtools :) |
| 21:17 | mconnor | Step 1: You're Done |
| 21:18 | mkanat | lol |
| 21:18 | mkanat | Hopefully with better code than WordPress, though. :-) |
| 21:19 | reed_ | yeah, I get tired of their security vulns |
| 21:19 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org changed the Target Milestone on bug 357904 from --- to Bugzilla 4.0. |
| 21:19 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357904 Creating/Changing Bugs, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 4.0, create-and-change%bugzilla.bugs, NEW, Create an object for a Field Value and have Bugzilla::Field->legal_values use it |
| 21:19 | cls | we added a checksetup.pl some time ago to address upgrade issues. it wasn't perfect but a start. as reed pointed out, for some things, it still required updating tbglobals.pl to set the new defaults but nothing that should've required you to write your own migration script |
| 21:20 | mkanat | You guys should steal as much of Bugzilla::Install as you can. |
| 21:20 | reed_ | sure, and I promise I didn't write my own migration script ;) |
| 21:20 | mkanat | Hahaha. |
| 21:30 | LpSolit | word antoine.mechelynck%gmail.com |
| 21:30 | word | LpSolit: excuse me? |
| 21:30 | LpSolit | reed_: who is this guy? |
| 21:33 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 453023 from --- to Bugzilla 3.2. |
| 21:33 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted approval on bug 453023. |
| 21:33 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted approval3.2 on bug 453023. |
| 21:33 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453023 User Interface, minor, --, Bugzilla 3.2, LpSolit%gmail.com, ASSIGNED, No link to severity and priority descriptions anymore after upgrade to 3.2 |
| 21:36 | reed | LpSolit: random contributors |
| 21:36 | reed | -s |
| 21:37 | LpSolit | ... who knows nothing about the way we manage our bugs |
| 21:38 | LpSolit | and generates bugmail for nothing |
| 21:38 | LpSolit | I even loose track of this bug, because he removed me from the assignee field |
| 21:38 | LpSolit | fortunately you caught it on time :) |
| 21:38 | LpSolit | s/loose/lost/ |
| 21:42 | LpSolit | is the bfcache bug really not fixed? bmo seems much faster today |
| 21:42 | pyrzak | LpSolit: borris says it isn't and based on the code that I looked at on YUI, it was still in there, but we reverted anyway |
| 21:43 | pyrzak | LpSolit: but it is still much faster |
| 21:43 | LpSolit | so something else made it much faster |
| 21:43 | pyrzak | LpSolit: something from one version of YUI to another, yes |
| 21:44 | mkanat | pyrzak: I thought you said it *wasn't* in 2.3. |
| 21:44 | pyrzak | mkanat: no you said that |
| 21:44 | mkanat | pyrzak: That's the whole reason I wanted the reversion... |
| 21:44 | mkanat | pyrzak: Because I thought you said it! :-) |
| 21:44 | pyrzak | mkanat: i said it looked like it was |
| 21:44 | pyrzak | mkanat: but it was still much faster |
| 21:44 | mkanat | Hmm. |
| 21:45 | mkanat | Well, it's an upstream bug then if we have it upstream. |
| 21:45 | LpSolit | want to file a bug to remove YUI? :) |
| 21:45 | mkanat | Hahahaha. |
| 21:46 | pyrzak | i have the documentation from YUI 2.3 on my laptop, and i see EU._simpleAdd(window, "unload", EU._unload); |
| 21:46 | pyrzak | which causes the problem |
| 21:47 | pyrzak | mkanat: what's funny is that it is still much faster |
| 21:47 | LpSolit | could it be due to another checkin? |
| 21:47 | LpSolit | such as the CSS before JS one? |
| 21:47 | pyrzak | mkanat: the other thing is, we know how to fix it for bfcache as well, add those 2 lines of code to remove th listener |
| 21:54 | bugbot | rdoherty%mozilla.com added attachment 338952 to bug 438712 |
| 21:54 | bugbot | rdoherty%mozilla.com requested review from anodelman%mozilla.c om for attachment 338952 on bug 438712. |
| 21:54 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338952&action=edit patch, Fix for empty bar (1 line!), empty_bar.diff |
| 21:54 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438712 Graph Server, normal, --, 0.6, rdoherty%mozilla.com, NEW, empty bar at end of series data (new graph front end) |
| 21:54 | bugbot | cls%seawood.org added attachment 338953 to bug 322418 |
| 21:54 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338953&action=edit patch, v1.0, tb-server-auth-v1.0.patch |
| 21:54 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322418 Tinderbox, normal, --, ---, cls%seawood.org, ASSIGNED, Tinderbox should require a personal login for editing tree status messages instead of a global password |
| 21:58 | pzn | I can't install bugzilla... can you give me a simple help? http://pastebin.com/d6e5479d3 it is a weird bug that google coulnt help me... thanks in advance |
| 21:59 | mkanat | pzn: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?20,78674,78791#msg-78791 |
| 22:02 | pzn | mkanat: I tried with mysql root user too. same problem. it succeeds in creating all other things before, any hint? |
| 22:02 | mkanat | pzn: It's a filesystem permissions issue, not a MySQL one. |
| 22:06 | LpSolit | pyrzak: are you working on bug 455558? |
| 22:06 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455558 User Interface, normal, --, Bugzilla 3.2, guy.pyrzak%gmail.com, NEW, Custom free text fields too long (particularly in Dusk) |
| 22:07 | pyrzak | LpSolit: i was going to do it today yes |
| 22:07 | pyrzak | probably in an hour or two |
| 22:07 | LpSolit | pyrzak: ok |
| 22:07 | pyrzak | LpSolit: i'll have you review it |
| 22:07 | LpSolit | ok :) |
| 22:08 | pzn | mkanat: it does not make sense for me. I went to line 761 of the perl program, put a "print" to show effective uid and gid and it is being run by root. |
| 22:08 | mkanat | pzn: Yes, but that doesn't mean that *mysql* is running as root. |
| 22:11 | bugbot | clouserw%gmail.com changed the Status on bug 429370 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. |
| 22:11 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429370 Kubla, normal, --, ---, nobody%mozilla.org, RESOLVED FIXED, Heartbeat monitor sends 500 error inappropriately |
| 22:12 | pzn | mkanat: ok, got the point! will try to solve it in mysql irc! thanks for your help! |
| 22:12 | mkanat | pzn: Great! :-) |
| 22:12 | mkanat | pzn: Welcome. |
| 22:18 | bugbot | cls%seawood.org added attachment 338958 to bug 455457 |
| 22:18 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455457 is not accessible. |
| 22:24 | mkanat | pyrzak: I think we need to make edit links bigger. |
| 22:24 | mkanat | pyrzak: I have a bit of a hard time hitting them. |
| 22:24 | LpSolit | wow, please no |
| 22:25 | LpSolit | stop drinking coffee, it will be easier to click :) |
| 22:25 | pyrzak | mkanat: i can at least make sure it has a good class assigned to it |
| 22:25 | pyrzak | mkanat: so you can customize the size for yourself |
| 22:25 | bugbot | New Bugzilla :: User Interface bug 455599 filed by mkanat%bugzilla.org. |
| 22:25 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455599 User Interface, normal, --, Bugzilla 3.2, guy.pyrzak%gmail.com, NEW, (edit) links are a bit too small |
| 22:26 | mkanat | pyrzak: Mmm, I think they actually just need to be bigger. |
| 22:26 | mkanat | pyrzak: It would make Bugzilla easier to use. |
| 22:26 | mkanat | This isn't really an issue of aesthetics. :-) |
| 22:26 | pyrzak | mkanat: fair enough, file it and assign it |
| 22:26 | mkanat | pyrzak: Done. |
| 22:29 | bugbot | anodelman%mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 438746 from VERIFIED FIXED to REOPENED. |
| 22:29 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438746 Graph Server, minor, --, 0.5, rdoherty%mozilla.com, REOPENED, turning off auto-scale doesn't do anything (new front end) |
| 22:29 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org added attachment 338960 to bug 357904 |
| 22:29 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338960&action=edit text/plain, Full Choice.pm, Choice.pm |
| 22:29 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357904 Creating/Changing Bugs, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 4.0, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, Create an object for a Field Value and have Bugzilla::Field->legal_values use it |
| 22:36 | pzn | how can I disable the possibility of anyone create a bugzilla account? |
| 22:36 | mkanat | pzn: Clear the createemailregexp paramete.r |
| 22:40 | pzn | mkanat: done! worked as expected! |
| 22:40 | mkanat | pzn: Great. :-) |
| 22:43 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted review for attachment 338931 on bug 455583. |
| 22:43 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338931&action=edit patch, Patch to use flag group ids in Bugzilla/User.pm (v1), flag_group_ids.patch |
| 22:43 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455583 Bugzilla-General, normal, --, ---, general%bugzilla.bugs, NEW, Bugzilla::User::can_{set,request}_flag methods should use the respective {grant,request}_group_id values instead of loading new Group object |
| 22:44 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 455583 from --- to Bugzilla 3.2. |
| 22:44 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted approval on bug 455583. |
| 22:44 | bugbot | LpSolit%gmail.com granted approval3.2 on bug 455583. |
| 23:01 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org added attachment 338965 to bug 357904 |
| 23:01 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org requested review from bbaetz%acm.org for attachment 338965 on bug 357904. |
| 23:01 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338965&action=edit patch, v1, fieldchoice.diff |
| 23:01 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357904 Creating/Changing Bugs, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 4.0, mkanat%bugzilla.org, ASSIGNED, Create an object for a Field Value and have Bugzilla::Field->legal_values use it |
| 23:01 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org cancelled review?(mkanat%bugzilla.org ) for attachment 337319 on bug 417290. |
| 23:01 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=337319&action=edit patch, patch, v3, bug1341-cvs.diff |
| 23:01 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417290 Email Notifications, enhancement, --, Bugzilla 3.4, LpSolit%gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Add an email pref to get notifications for newly created bugs |
| 23:03 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted review for attachment 334279 on bug 417290. |
| 23:03 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=334279&action=edit patch, patch, v2, bug0-cvs.diff |
| 23:03 | bugbot | mkanat%bugzilla.org granted approval on bug 417290. |
| 23:17 | mkanat | Okay, i'm out for at least a bit. :-) later, folks! |
| 23:45 | bugbot | anodelman%mozilla.com granted review for attachment 338952 on bug 438712. |
| 23:45 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338952&action=edit patch, Fix for empty bar (1 line!), empty_bar.diff |
| 23:45 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438712 Graph Server, normal, --, 0.6, rdoherty%mozilla.com, NEW, empty bar at end of series data (new graph front end) |
| 23:46 | bugbot | anodelman%mozilla.com denied review for attachment 338887 on bug 438710. |
| 23:46 | bugbot | Attachment https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=338887&action=edit patch, Fix for half sized intervals, intervals.diff |
| 23:46 | bugbot | Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438710 Graph Server, normal, --, 0.6, rdoherty%mozilla.com, NEW, new front end displays half sized intervals for series sets. |
| 23:47 | CGI761 | hello |
| 16 Sep 2008 | ||